Instead of asking whether to vote Brexit or Bremain, we would like to discuss what hardships — real or imagined — are identified in the debate about the EU and how and why these problems are seen to be forced upon Britain by the EU. In this meeting, we want to challenge sovereignty, which is claimed by both camps as a central pillar for their argument. Sovereignty is at its core is the might of a capitalist state to deal with its subjects as it pleases. Neither Brexit nor Bremain will change that.